Be Satisfied With Simple Living
Prabhupada: You are not getting new devotees to join?
Yogesvara: In Paris.
Prabhupada: Yes. From Paris or here... In Paris... From Paris you can bring in the farm.
Yogesvara: Well, at the farm there is not as much of a new bhakta program
as in Paris. So the new men are encouraged to stay in Paris to get fixed
up first.
Prabhupada: So new... When they are trained up, they can come, live, especially
grihastas. My point is whether the farm is attractive. Not very much.
Yogesvara: The potential is wonderful.
Prabhupada: And therefore I'm asking. Potential is wonderful, so why they
are not attracted to live in the farm and be self-independent and chant Hare
Krsna? That is our farm project. Our farm project is they should be satisfied
with simple living. That is nice living. If you get milk, if you get fruit,
if you get grain and open air, it is very healthy life. Why they should not
be attracted?
Yogesvara: It is still the beginning, and because it's the beginning, it is a little difficult sometimes.
Prabhupada: That may be. But this should be our aim. We should not be attracted
by the modern city life. Simplified life. Save time and utilize for advancing
in Krsna consciousness. That is perfect life. Just like Vrindavana. Vrindavana
life means agriculturist, cowherd boys, uneducated girls, cows and calves,
and tree, fruits. This is Vrindavana. The center is Krsna.
Yogesvara: Simple living.
Prabhupada: But they are the topmost devotees. These (chuckling) uneducated,
without any town life, cow-men, they are Krsna's best friend. Unsophisticated,
no education, but love intense—that is perfect. That attracted Krsna more.
Vrindavana parityajya na padam ekaa (sic:) na kartavya... Krsna is so much
attached to Vrindavana that He goes nowhere... What is that? They are not
educated girls, up-to-date fashion, (indistinct) or nothing. Crude. As soon
as there was blowing of the flute, immediately they began to run towards
Krsna. Somebody is taking care of children, somebody is engaged in boiling
milk, and somebody was even lying down with her husband. Still, immediately...
Very crude, unsophisticated, but intense love for Krsna—that is Vrindavana.
We want to introduce this farm project means intense love for Krsna. And
other things—very simple: little milk, little food grain, little vegetable,
that's all. And that is very nice. If you get fresh vegetable, fresh milk,
and food grain, what do you want more? And from milk you can prepare so many
nice preparations, unlimited number, all very palatable, sweet. This civilization
we want to introduce, not so-called rascal civilization and become implicated
in this cycle of birth and death. This is not civilization. This is killing
civilization. Human being got the opportunity to get out of these clutches
of birth and death. They do not understand. They're so rascal, they do not
understand how they are implicated in this cycle of birth and death, nor
they do take it seriously, that this is the problem, janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam
[Bg. 13.9]. They are so blind rascals, they do not see that this is real
suffering. They do not know it. Simply theorizing, making plan, and they
do not know what is the suffering. Such a rascal civilization. So we have
to introduce real civilization. Therefore we are struggling so hard. So make
in such a way. That's a very nice place, center of Europe and very nice place.
What is the condition of rainfall?
Yogesvara: Last summer was dry, but it was not so much dangerous for us. And now it is steady.
Prabhupada: So there must be rainfall. And if we become Krsna conscious, chant Hare Krsna, there will be rainfall.
Yogesvara: That will be true everywhere we go.
Prabhupada: There'll be rainfall. And then even barren land will be fertile.
They do not know this. They are importing water. These rascals, they continue
sinful life and import water. There are oceans and seas. Why (chuckling)
you scientist cannot bring the water, make cloud and pour water? Where is
that science? What do they say about it?
Room Conversation -- January 31, 1977, Bhuvanesvara
