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Prabhupada: And besides that, if we concentrate in farm project there will be no need of exchange, because I'll be satisfied with my products. That's all. There is no need of exchange. Whatever I need, I get in my farm.
Ramesvara: Weaving, cloth.
Prabhupada: Everything I get. So I haven't got to go outside for exchange. If you are satisfied in your farm—I am satisfied—then where is question of exchange? There is no need of artificial... So this banking, "fanking," everything will collapse automatically. There is no money, who is going to keep money in the bank?
Hari-Sauri: Who needs it?
Prabhupada: (laughs) So this artificial way of banking, that will be also collapsed.
Hari-Sauri: This is revolutionary.
Ramesvara: It's very hard for the mind to...
Prabhupada: No, simply do this.
Ramesvara: Such a dramatic transformation of society.
Prabhupada: Yes. Whatever it may be... We should be satisfied locally by our food, by our cloth, by our milk. That's all. Let the whole world go to hell. We don't care. If you want to save yourself also, you do this. Here is an example. If you want artificial life, city life, and hellish life, you do. But we shall live like this. This is the ideal life.
Hari-Sauri: But still, we're going out to attract people to come to our life-style.
Prabhupada: Hm?
Hari-Sauri: We're still going out to attract people to come and live like us.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Ramesvara: Well, even more than that, we know that we have the secret to real life, so it's our duty to actually... Just like you say...
Prabhupada: That is preaching. That is preaching.
Ramesvara: ...the surgeon, he must cut.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Ramesvara: The doctor must...
Prabhupada: Yes.
Ramesvara: ...save the patient. It's his duty.
Prabhupada: No artificial dealing. Purge out.
Hari-Sauri: When one actually has the power, he can do that.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Hari-Sauri: So by our preaching now, we have to try and establish a Krsna consciousness government first through the democratic system.
Ramesvara: You said, "Think in terms of the whole world, not just one nation. That is our preaching." So you are training us to think very big, global.
Prabhupada: We keep the ideal style of life. You learn and do it. I am not encroaching upon your independence, but if you want to be happy, you follow. This is our process. Apani acari' prabhu jiveri siksaya. You be happy, very ideally, and people will learn. But this can be possible only on the basis of Krsna consciousness. If you make minus Krsna consciousness this thing, it will never be possible. Then it will not be possible. All these scheme will be successful if there is Krsna consciousness.
Hari-Sauri: Only if the chanting and prasadam is there.
Prabhupada: Prasadam, Deity worship, devotional life... Then it will be all right.
Hari-Sauri: Yes. Gandhi could never implement his program.
Prabhupada: Nobody can do. They simply... Even... What is that? Marx? He could not. There is no real attraction. Artificial, by force. Here the real attraction is Krsna. So other thing he doesn't mind: "Let there be little inconvenience. I don't mind."
Hari-Sauri: A devotee is actually getting a higher taste. He's getting some real enjoyment, so he doesn't care for the other things.
Prabhupada: So unless there is enjoyment he cannot stick. But that enjoyment is Krsna.
Hari-Sauri: Just that chanting is enough. It's just so much nectar.
Prabhupada: No, everything—Deity worship, chanting, kirtana, preaching, publishing, distributing—everything.